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[新闻] 巴克利:将乔丹与当代的球星相提并论,有点侮辱乔丹的意思

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Charles Barkley says it's unfair to compare Michael Jordan to this era — “You know how many free throws he would shoot today?”

查尔斯-巴克利说将迈克尔-乔丹与这个时代的球星相提并论很不公平的——“你知道他在当今的联盟,一场能罚多少球吗?”


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MIKE_THE_KILLER

I think MJ would also take more 3s, not just free throws.

我认为丹子也会命中更多三分,不仅仅是有更多罚球。

ridemooses

100% this. Dunks and layups were the most valuable shot in the NBA for decades, and Jordan based his game around it.

100%正确。在之前的时代,扣篮和上篮是最有价值的得分方式,因此乔丹的进攻以此为基础,但不代表他不能擅长其他的。

bandarbush

But that fadeaway 🤤

还有后仰跳投🤤

thanif

Think about it, dude developed one of the most impossible to defend shots during the 2nd half of his career. He was still athletic of course but not what he was in his early days. To think he wouldn't be able to develop a three point shot in this era is insane.

想想看,这家伙在他职业生涯的后半段锻炼出了最难防住的投篮之一。

当然,他仍然能飞天遁地,但不像他生涯初期那样了,他更会控制自己的身体。

认为他在这个时代无法练出三分是很蠢的。


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HereIGoAgain_1x10

Dude broke the record for 3 pointers in a half against the Portland Trail Blazers in the 91-92 playoffs just because some sports writers were predicting Clyde Drexler had the edge against Jordan that series because his 3 point shot was better.

"His six three-pointers were a Finals record for a half, same for his 35 points (Jordan finished with 39). Jordan’s top foil in the series, Clyde Drexler, had 16 points. The Bulls won in six games and Drexler outscored Jordan in only one game (which the Blazers lost)."

乔丹在91-92总决赛对阵开拓者的比赛中打破了半场三分的纪录,原因是一些人说“滑翔机”德雷克斯勒在与乔丹的对位中有优势,因为他的三分球更好。

“他的六个三分球创造了总决赛半场三分的纪录,他的半场35分同样创造了纪录。乔丹在系列赛中的配角,德雷克斯勒仅仅得到16分。最后公牛六场获胜,滑翔机只有一场得分比乔丹高(那场开拓者还输了)。”


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j2e21

He did this over and over again. When he went up against Magic in the Finals he averaged over 10 assists per game (and 30+ points) to shut everyone up who said he was just a scorer and Magic was a better all-around player.

When Barkley was being anointed as the best offensive player in the game because of his unguardable low-post game after the Olympics, Jordan averaged over 40 a game against him in the Finals.

And I don’t even have to talk about what he did to the Jazz after Karl Malone won the MVP award.

他无数次做到这样的事情,打爆那些媒体说“比乔丹更好”的球员。

当他在总决赛中对阵魔术师时,他场均30+,还有超过10次的助攻,让所有说“乔丹只是个得分手,不像魔术师一般全能的人闭嘴。

当巴克利在93年被评为MVP之后,乔丹在总决赛对阵他时场均超过40分。

都不用提卡尔-马龙抢走他的MVP后,他对爵士做的事情。


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FewReplacement6988

If CP3 at 6 foot tall can thrive with his midrange game in this era, imagine what MJ with his fadeaway can do.

如果6尺高的保罗能够在这个时代凭借他的中距离拥有一席之地,想象一下MJ的后仰跳投能做到什么样的成就。

jmblumenshine

I keep saying, if demar can drop 40 repeatedly with his mid-range and no 3 ball.

Jordan drops 50 easily with the same team

我一直认为,如果德罗赞可以用中距离一场得到40分,并且没有三分球。

乔丹在现在能轻松得50分。

Mousse_Upset

and MJ is playing defense (love Demar, but D is not his love).

而且丹子还会防守(我爱阿赞,但他不咋防守)。



smileyfrown

In College Jordan was taught a 3 pt shot was a bad shot, imagine, his shooting, with his work ethic and skill if he was told the opposite today

Completely different player if he has both a unstoppable midrange, his speed, and a high pct 3

在大学里,乔丹被教练灌输的理念是三分是糟糕的投篮选择,想象一下,如果他接受的是现代篮球的理念......

FormCheck575765

The old joke was Dean Smith was the only one who could hold him to under 20

老笑话:迪恩-史密斯是唯一能把他限制在20分以下的人(乔丹的教练)

LarrcasM

Man literally has more career games over 30 points than under 30. This is including the Wizards years.

On the Bulls Jordan has 2x (165 to 75) as many 40 point games as every other player in franchise history combined and 5x (30 to 6) as many 50 point games as everyone else combined (Steph, KD, and LeBron have 31 combined)

In his rookie year alone he had one less 40 point game than Jimmy Butler has in his entire career (7 for rookie MJ and 8 total for Jimmy).

On the Bulls he had 82 games total scoring less than 20 points (with a lot of those being minutes restrictions). He had 537 total over 30 and 393 below 30 (with 311 of those being 20-29 points). On any given night he wore a Bulls uniform, he was more likely to drop 30 than not. His average stat line on the Bulls was 31.5/6.3/5.4/2.5/0.9 a game.

Just to add some fucking absurd perspective to the scoring ability of Michael Jordan. The only reason he looks remotely mortal is because he came back to play on the Wizards for 142 games.

关于乔丹的一些惊人记录:

事实上乔丹职业生涯30+的比赛比30分以下的比赛要多。这包括在奇才的生涯。

在公牛,乔丹40+的比赛是公牛队史其他球员总和的2倍(165比75),50+的场次是其他球员总和的5倍(30比6)(斯蒂芬、KD和勒布朗50+的总和为31场)

仅在他的新秀赛季,他的40+场次就只比吉米-巴特勒整个职业生涯少一场(新秀乔丹7次,吉米总共8次)。

在公牛,他有82场比赛的得分低于20分(其中很多是出场时间限制)。他总共有537场超过30分,393场低于30 分(其中311场是20-29 分)。

在每个穿着公牛球衣的晚上,他都很有可能得30+。他在公牛队的平均数据是每场31.5/6.3/5.4/2.5/0.9。

Good_NewsEveryone

It really would be wild to see Jordan in modern spacing

假如乔丹来打现代篮球,真的无法想象他能做到什么



pinkshoesarecool

I still think it’s funny that people think the all time greats wouldn’t dominate in every era

我仍然觉得很离谱,人们总认为过去的伟人无法在现代打得好

Seastep

There's something to be said about the evolution of the "common" professional athlete, sure, but it's asinine to believe otherwise that the old timers wouldn't be even greater with today's improvements/quality of coaching and technology.

我认为随着当今教练和篮球技术、装备的质量提升,老前辈假如来到这个年代,他们的身体素质也会变得更好。

xaniel99

Basketball fans the most disrespectful fans in sports when it comes to past greats and it’s not even close

篮球迷是体育界最无礼的球迷,谈到过去的伟人,会觉得他们一事无成

OkBarber6

It’s goes both ways dude.

Basketball fans either think everyone that came after Kobe is a bitch that wouldn’t last 3 seconds in the previous era or everyone that came before Kobe were absolute scrubs that played against janitors. There’s no respect all around and it’s very fucking annoying.

这是双向的,伙计。

篮球迷们要么认为科比之后的每个人都是在上世纪坚持不了3秒的垃圾,要么认为科比之前的每个人都是与水管工打球的废物。根本没有任何尊重。

pinkshoesarecool

I think I often see the extremes of both sides

I see people who think MJ would average 50 in this era, and see people who think lebron would average 50 in the 90s. Neither are true

我经常看到两个极端的评价

我看到有人认为MJ在这个时代能场均得50分,也看到有人认为勒布朗在90年代能场均得50分。两者都不是真的。

childish_jalapenos

The comment section of Basketball tiktok is probably has the worst bball opinions ever. All they do is hate on past eras. "Magic Johnson was overrrated" is a common opinion there

抖音上球迷的评论,可能是最垃圾的。他们只会黑过去的球星。“魔术师约翰逊被高估了”,抖音球迷都这么说







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